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Vegetarians, Vegans, and Eggs

Is it possible, that eating some eggs can actually reduce cruelty and suffering of animals? This link also has good information for those who wish to continue to eat some meat protein but are not ready to become "vegan".

Is it right or wrong for Vegetarians, or Vegans, to eat eggs? Well it depends on who you ask. Most vegans refuse to eat eggs, some Vegetarians will eat eggs. Many offer reasons and excuses ranging from the idea of killing a baby chick before it has hatched, to contributing to cruelty and the suffering of hens in battery cages. As such, I am not going to look at this from a health stand point, but rather from the cruelty standpoint. I am going to suggest eating eggs as a way to STOP cruelty. I am not suggesting just any eggs... I suggest eating only proper free range eggs from hens whom are not kept with roosters.


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The Poor Unborn Baby Chicks

Not every egg is destined to be a chick. If there are no roosters present, the egg will not be fertilized, and therefore will not contain the makings of a baby chicken. Some breeds of chickens lay more eggs than others. Many of these "laying" breeds will not sit on their eggs, as such even if they had a rooster in the pen with them, they would never keep the egg warm enough for it to live and develop into a chick. As such the argument of not eating baby chicks is moot.

The Truth about Soy

There is a very good chance that more animals suffer in the growing and production of Soy, than in the free range egg production industry. Animals are displaced in order to have fields of soy, and are kept out. Pesticides are used to kill insects, which intern kills the mice and birds who prey on those insects. Other animals are poisoned to keep them out of the crops, rabbits, for example are not welcome. Deer are not exactly welcome either. In fact soy producers really don't want any animals on the land while the soy beans are growing. This loss of habitat is indisputably cruel and should not be disregarded simply because an animal is wild

Save a Hen, Eat an Egg

Free Range means different things to different people, to me I think of hens that are not in tiny cages, who have shelter but are allowed outdoors to run freely, even within an enclosed safe pen. In some areas pens are truly necessary or the hens would be easy prey to foxes, coyotes, snakes, and birds of prey. In many places people can actually have their own pet chickens for egg production, this is the ideal. I would suggest keeping three to six birds for a family. Chicken breeds should be selected according to productivity and friendliness. If you keep your own hens then you are saving other hens from battery situations. Ideally you may want to have more eggs than you can eat, and can share them with other people, thus reducing the number of eggs they buy from battery situations.

Battery Situations?

I probably should explain what a battery is. It may be called different things in different countries, but typically a battery is rows and rows of tiny wire cages where hens are warehoused. The birds who enter this system are sexed at day one, females get vaccinated and "debeaked", in other words, their beaks are cut off to prevent them from pecking each other due to the upcoming stressful, and boring, caging situation they are about to enter. The cages are often only slightly larger than the two or three hens put into them, alongside others. The eggs are automatically rolled away from the hens, not even allowing a proud mother to sit on the egg and cluck proudly about it. These are really terrible situations and undoubtedly a good reason not to eat eggs, or chickens for that matter.

Do the Math

The math adds up to the fact that eating some eggs actually reduces suffering of other animals, both wild, and domestic. Fresh free range eggs are also healthier than store bought battery hen eggs, so you can improve on the health angle too if you want to go that route.

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Comments (6)
#1 by Wendy, May 31, 2008
So where do I get fresh free range eggs. I currently purchase the vegetarian feed eggs, but consume eggs only on occasion. I like eggs as a vegetarian and am not ready to give it up.
#2 by Mark Gordon Brown, Jun 1, 2008
I actually have 4 hens for egg production, but often you can buy them at farmers markets or directly from farms who have signs up at the end of their driveways. Ask at your local livestock feed stores, chances are one of their employees has hens.
#3 by Syd, Jul 26, 2008
Do you even know what "Free Range" is? Basically just uncaged but still miserable and stuck in a building with thousands of other hens in some lousy conditions. Those chickens who produce a lot of eggs have been bred to do so and come from hatcheries that discard half the chickens because they are roosters. They get ground up, gassed or suffocated in a pile of themselves in a dumpster. Industrial hens are only kept for at best a couple seasons but these days only one and are gassed per building often never having had their building cleaned until they are killed. They then become soup, potpies, and other meals that hide their bruised bodies but some just get tossed in landfills because they are so spent they have nothing worthwhile.

Only a fraction of soy is consumed by humans with the vast majority going to animal feed of industrial food animals. So, the person who is eating animals, including dairy and eggs is contributing much more to the wild animal -- and environmental -- destruction than those who don't because it takes more plant materials to produce the animal products than it would just eating the plant. For instance it takes 8 to 16 pounds of grain to produce one pound of edible beef so a vegan is doing at least 8 times better by eating soy than having it go through a cow first.

And an intern is someone who is learning. Might do you a bit of good to intern a bit and find out exactly why there are issues rather than just decide you've figured out the meaning of the universe and we are idiots who need to be enlightened.
#4 by Mark Gordon Brown, Jul 26, 2008
to Syd
NOT all "Free Range" hens are kept as you suggest, I myself am NOT an "intern" as you put it, infact I own my own free range hens. Here are 3 of them
http://www.picable.com/Nature/Birds/Three-Cute-Chicks.151568
They are put in a big shed only for night for their own safety (it is coyote/fox proof)
it is NOT my fault the industry puts loose regulations on the term "free Range", which by the way, actually does mean Free Range in some countries... and to many farmers...

also many people keep Roosters as charming farm pets. Indeed many are ground up to be cat food, BUT if people kept chickens as PETS for egg production, rather than relied on factory farms... we really could make a positive difference..

ALSO many farmers keep cattle on GRASS, feeding hay in the winter, not feeding them GRAIN AT ALL!!!!

- you will note I live on a 10 acre hobby farm!
#5 by Syd, Jul 30, 2008
Your sentence from your article:
"Pesticides are used to kill insects, which intern kills the mice and birds who prey on those insects."


People may keep some roosters but hardly as many as are born. 95% of the hens in the United States are kept in battery cages (just as 95% of all food animals come out of factory farming/CAFO situations which trumps your "many" sum). Given the new popularity of "free range" which you are trying to redefine to fit your own purposes (which seems to be bashing plant eaters to justify your choices) you can imagine (I hope) that your 3 girls (not 6 chickens with 3 roosters -- or more boys for those homeless ones others won't keep) are just a drop in the bucket of the vegan excuses you are making here.

Basically, you are completely muddling the issues with something completely unrelated and you are being very insulting (which is entirely your fault) while also having several facts wrong such as the false idea of how vegans eat more soy than animal production... (only in your fantasy world here). So just on that falsehood we still win.

But what you are talking about is backyard chickens. You aren't even into the range of "Pastured" flocks which is quite different than industrial free range. Regardless, even those have been bred to be about 150 times more productive than naturally inclined. Even then your ladies will stop being so about the third year but will have natural lives for 10-15 years, even sometimes 20 years. Are you going to house them even if they aren't 'earning' their feed?

Please, do go back to school for more math and a few other things so you can apply the math correctly rather than in this odd way that doesn't compute when one adds in any of the truth and facts.

I'd like to think your heart is in the correct place but you've put your "Bull's" eye on the wrong target. Plant-eaters are not the enemy. Set your "sites" on Monsanto, ADM, Tyson, etc.
#6 by Mark Gordon Brown, Jul 31, 2008
to Syd.
Thanks for checking back to see my earlier reply.
It was not me who is redefining "FREE RANGE" it is the factory farms who did that, twisted it to mean less than it should.

I have written another article against Monsanto, and they are one of my Biggest Enemies, and I have been protesting against them long before it was "cool" to protest against Monstanto.

Terminator seeds are a breakdown of positive living. Factory farms are horrific, People who protest AGAINST "TRUE" Free Range, are as big of a threat as people who support Monsanto and Factory Farms.

If we allow "a bit" of freedom for people to eat "free range" eggs rather than force them to buy SOY and SUPPORT companies like Monsanto etc. then we are not helping animals one bit.

I may not have all the answers, nobody does, we are all "works in progress". I just think a bit of help is better than none, and many people will NEVER convert soley to veganism or vegetarianism.

In my opinion Free Range hens (true free chickens) are far less harmful than large tracts of land devoted to GMO Soy, Hemp, and Spirulina (invasive blue green algae which messes up lakes and other eco systems)

Hopefully at some time we can come up with better technology to incease birth rates of hens over roosters (as is being done with temperature control)
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