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What the Word of God Says About Homosexuality

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The Bible states that being homosexual is an abomination (Refer to Romans 1:24-27, 2 Peter 2:6-10,Matthew 10:15, 2 Timothy 3:1-3). If there is any questions, take them up with God.

These days I hear of "gay pride" parades and all this other stuff. Why do people blatantly walk the streets, with their heads held high, supporting homosexuality? Their own consciences and hearts tell them that homosexuality is wrong.

You can say all day long, "how would you know?" but before you do, I will tell you how I know.

God's Laws are written on the tablet of the heart of every man and woman that He gave life to. There are some that would claim that being homosexual isn't a choice, but it is. A person can either choose to live morally or immorally. If they choose the latter, then they have no room to complain when the consequences come knocking.

Being that there are many homosexuals these days, I will probably receive a lot of heat for this article. As I say a lot though, if writing it changes one life for the better then it has been effective.

I know several people who are homosexual, and they say openly that they have chosen to be that way. I am not trying to condemn people. Only to wake them up.

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Comments (88)
#1 by Jupiter, Oct 29, 2007
Dobson, obviously you need to read your bible again,ABSOLUTELY NONE of the verses that I cited are in the Old Testament, It should have been obvious given the fact that Matthew is the 1st book of the NEW Testament, please, before you go critiquing my work, reread your Bible, Thanks much.
#2 by Jupiter, Oct 29, 2007
Romans 1:24-32

1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
#3 by Jupiter, Oct 30, 2007
Timmy, I don't hate anybody, I am just stating what the Word of God says, If I didn't care about people I wouldn't even bother letting them know, if you find it offensive take it up with God

#4 by Jupiter, Oct 30, 2007
P.S. to Timmy Burns, I am not thumping the Bible, God gave man a conscience for a reason, and the fact that you believe that I am telling you this to condemn you is Sad, it is not God's will that any should perish, I am in fact telling you what the Word of God says to help you to understand, God loves all those whom he created, but at the same time He does tell us right from wrong, He chastises those who he loves, heed your conscience
#5 by Amber, Nov 5, 2007
A lot of those verses don't pertain to homosexuality if you read them in context. Oh, and the gays that you know who said they have "chosen" to be this way, are apparently the only ones on the planet. Most people don't choose to be gay, believe me. Why would we choose something that would make so many people hate us? Anyway, no ill will is meant by my comments, these are just valid points I felt should be made, so other people who happen upon your page would see another view. Thanks. I hope you don't delete my comments like it looks like you did to Dobson.
#6 by Jupiter, Nov 6, 2007
Amber, homosexuality is wrong your own conscience testifies to it. As far as taking it up with God,I meant pray.
As for your thoughts that "A lot of those verses don't pertain to homosexuality if you read them in context." read Romans 1:24-32 it is very clear.As for your question of Why homosexuals choose to be that way, rebellion plain and simple,they burn after the lusts of their own flesh. The Bible was written to teach people, not control them.

The Laws of God are written on the hearts of all his people,
God still gives us free will to listen or not to.
He loves us, but He's not going to knock down the door and force His will, He gives us a choice, but he also made it clear that there are consequences if we choose rebellion against His will.

#7 by Jupiter , Nov 6, 2007
Please people, I am aware that many people have thoughts on this issue. I wrote this to inform, not to debate.
Therefore, I am not going to debate the issue.
I have said what I had to say
#8 by Jupiter , Nov 6, 2007
P.S. The information is here if you want it, but if you want to cause strife and debate,people have better things to do than argue.Please keep the commentary civilized, thanks very much.
#9 by CHad!!!, Nov 6, 2007
someone deleted my comment!!!
Deusche face!!!
#10 by Jupiter, Nov 6, 2007
Chad....please,stay off my page.....or say something productive.
#11 by Jupiter, Nov 6, 2007
As for your comment, it was deleted because it seemed to be meant to incite a debate, which would not be productive in the least.
This article is not written for debate, as I already said,if you have a problem with me stating what the Bible says, take it up with God, not with me or my readers. Thanks
#12 by Missouri, Nov 7, 2007
Why respond when responses are deleted if they don't "conform".....
#13 by Jupiter, Nov 7, 2007
Missouri your comment was deleted because I already stated, this was written to inform not debate and calling me a bigot simply because I stated what the Bible says is bigotry in itself on your part. Stay off my pages if you are just going to cause arguments, as you can see I responded to Amber's comment but I am not going to respond to those who just wish to argue. It is utterly pointless
#14 by EdRoberts, Nov 9, 2007
The "abomination" argument is the BIG LIE of all the anti-homosexual arguments. Why? Because of what it does NOT tell you...in context you must compare it to what else the Bible tells us is EQUALLY an abomination: Using false weights and measures is an abomination. Having sex with your wife while she is menstruating is an abomination, et-ceterea.

So, we learn that people who use the "abomination" argument are in essence liars, using their own pitiful understanding of their own Bible to spread hatred. Why? Probably latent homosexuals themselves.
#15 by Jupiter, Nov 9, 2007
ED The Bible says what it says no matter how you cut it Homosexuality is wrong, always and forever will be. I am stating what it says to inform,that homosexuality is an abomination is not an argument, just pure stone cold unchanging fact.Read the book of Leviticus Chapters 18 and 20, Genesis Chapter 19, and Romans
#16 by Jupiter, Nov 9, 2007
P.S. to Ed. It is pointless to debate,God's Law is written on the heart of all his people. If you choose to be disobedient to God's Law the consequence is clearly stated. It is not me that you have to answer to, as I don't answer to you. Ultimately we all answer to God.
#17 by J.K., Nov 12, 2007
For future readers, please leave the sarcastic commentary at the door. If you really have something to say, then say it, but the sarcastic and rude commentary is uncalled for and will be immediately marked as spam.

For the last time, I am not here to debate this issue, this was written to inform, period.

As I said to Ed, God's Law is written on the heart of all his people, if you choose to be obedient, great.
If not, and if you choose to harden your hearts, then the consequence is clear, I am not going to debate that either, God gave all men and women a conscience for a reason
so there is no excuse.
#18 by EdRoberts, Nov 13, 2007
My comments, that you deleted, were direct quotations from the Bible - showing that what you put forth is twisted in that it is totally out of context - - that you cannot accept clear Biblical correctional criticism makes me wonder as to your honesty - I cannot judge you, but you know who will....
#19 by J.K., Nov 13, 2007
Ed, I understand the context fully thank you and you my dear reader are the one who fails to see that in context, the Bible Clearly states Homosexuality is an abomination, yes there are other things that are equal abominations, but that does not change the fact that homosexuality is now and forever will be an abomination, so we that use the "abomination argument" as you call it are not liars, just stating Biblical truth.
#20 by J.K., Nov 13, 2007
P.S. Your comment from before was deleted because you said the abomination argument was a "big lie" and that I was spreading hatred,a blatant attack on me. As for context, yes as we realize there are abominations equal to homosexuality and I wasn't saying that there aren't,you either believe the Word of God or you don't, I was not taking anything out of context at all, the particular abomination being discussed in the article was homosexuality.
#21 by J.K., Nov 13, 2007
To Ed, as you can see I restored your comment(however flawed it may be) and also responded to it, I am not going to debate anything with you. If you choose to debate, you do not have to read my work.
#22 by What were you going for Ed?, Nov 14, 2007
Listen Ed man, if your comment was meant in support of homosexuals you probably alienated most of them instead when you said "So, we learn that people who use the "abomination" argument are in essence liars, using their own pitiful understanding of their own Bible to spread hatred. Why? Probably latent homosexuals themselves."

I just thought I'd point that out
#23 by What were you going for Ed?, Nov 14, 2007
J.K. Is right by the way, He wasn't taking things out of context, you added to his article when it was only discussing homosexuality, he never once said there weren't other abominations,they just were not the subject of this particular article.
#24 by B, Nov 14, 2007
I noticed,people will always use the "You took that out of context" argument when they read or hear something that they'd rather not see or hear. That is the way of people who love debates.

But God's law remains, True and unchanging
#25 by A, Nov 14, 2007
I noticed that several comments have been removed. If you don't want open discussion, simply turn comments off. It would be easier than deleting the comments over and over. I mean, look at how many comments you replied to that simply aren't there anymore. People will think you are crazy. :)
#26 by J.K., Nov 14, 2007
A I cannot turn the comments off, and I responded to all commentary so far, even to the people who left spam on my pages, yes. That however was for their benefit so they can understand why their comments were removed.As far as people thinking that I'm crazy, anybody who knows how this website works and has been here a while will know better than that, they will note that I explained I was responding to spammers, Why would I respond to spammers you may wonder, even they deserve the common courtesy of an explanation if they obviously see their comment isn't there, I will not remove any commentary without cause to do so.
#27 by EdRoberts, Nov 15, 2007
"Jupiter"

Thank you for restoring my comment.

I do not think homosexuality is a 'good' thing, however, I feel that Biblical argument MUST be in context. The single most important thing in the Bible is: God is love.

The second greatest teaching we can pass along to homosexuals is that a loving God has promised us that ALL sins - except the unpardonable one - is forgivable... That is the beauty of Christianity...without it, our religion is nothing.

It is constantly taught that we are ALL sinners - so who are we to state that God will not forgive, along with US - the homosexual?...
#28 by J.K., Nov 15, 2007
Ed, I never said or meant to imply that God could not or would not forgive homosexuality, I wrote the article to inform, yes, we are all sinners in need of repentance, I wrote this article for that very reason,to call attention to that need for repentance and to the fact that God Loves all who he created, but can only work in a heart of someone that wants forgiveness and truly repents,after all,If our hearts are hardened then how will God work? He doesn't force his will on anyone
#29 by kaz, Nov 16, 2007
I suppose the only thing we can do here is agree to disagree. thats the only way people are going to get on with the fact that everybody has different opinions and not everyone is going to agree on one solution to this disagreement, i would like to say that the bible seems to me to be writen in a way that it can be altered to either side of the arguement, people seem to understand Gods word differently. whatever his words mean to one mean slighty different to the other however your beliefs are of your own understanding of Gods word and thats your own choice, if it works for you then thats fine, but why try and change or wake people up if their lives are working fine already. Finally im glad you started this discussion because you have made me realise God is whatever a person beleives him to be. so thanks a billion. :-)
#30 by J.K., Nov 16, 2007
God is who He is kaz, and His word is clear. I do admit all people have opinions, one prevalent here from the comments is that I am perceived as condemning people,I was not telling anybody "you're going to hell" right off the bat like many do say these days, and that is because I do not know people's hearts,that is between them and God. This article was written as a call to repentance for those who know they need it, as we all know we need God's forgiveness,because we all fall short of His glory.
That is what I meant by waking people up the article was condemning the practice of homosexuality, but in no way was I saying it was unforgivable.
#31 by Lara Tacita, Nov 24, 2007
Jupiter, be careful with what people know in their hearts.... You only know homosexuality is wrong because some ancient text tells you so.

But even if it is, is coming here and pointing out that some 2000 year old book that calls bats birds going to change the minds of anybody? No, do not expect the words in the Bible to change anybody's life.
#32 by Jupiter, Nov 25, 2007
Lara, as I stated already,The Bible and the human conscience testifies that homosexuality is wrong,God changes people, the Bible is the word of God and His word is life changing, Humanity knows right from wrong, God gives wisdom and knowledge for those whose hearts are tender enough to listen.

God loves people, that's true, but God hates sin, and we are all sinners who need forgiveness, this article was written to call attention to that need as I already said,

P.S. this is off topic but the Bible does not call bats birds that you assume it does begs the question, have you ever read it?
#33 by lol, Nov 25, 2007
In Deuteronomy the Hebrew word ôwph is used to define the list of vertebrates (KJV renders it "fowls"). This word means, literally, "to cover with wings" or "winged creature." I could argue that such a word could encompass bats as well as birds, but this is not a satisfactory argument, for two reasons:

you're talking about by classifying bats with birds, and Lev. 11:19, uses the Hebrew word tsippôn, which means "bird" in no uncertain terms. Thus we must conclude, in harmonizing the two references, that the specific term "bird" (tsippôn ) in Leviticus, by the law of harmonics and the law of first-mention, instructs us to interpret the generic term "winged creature" (ôwph ) in Deuteronomy as "bird" hence the reason they are listed together, though that does not mean the Bible is literally calling a bat a bird, only a winged creature.


Anyway that was off topic obviously
#34 by lol, Nov 25, 2007
the above comment was to Lara by the way, not the author.
#35 by Jupiter, Nov 25, 2007
commentator 36 is correct in what they wrote.
Bats and birds are listed together as fowls, but that refers to winged creature not necessarily only birds, you misunderstood the meaning of the word fowl, you need to do further studies Lara, no offense, just keep your terms and contexts correct and you will understand clearly that the Bible does not call bats birds.
#36 by Lara Tacita, Nov 25, 2007
Jupiter, stop the appeal to the Bible and Human conscience. You're just making yourself look like an idiot, of course, this post did a good job of that.

Go to a Christian forum and post crap like this if you're looking to win friends, but if you just came here to get an argument like any other troll, that is what you got.

I do not find many things the Bible states to be an abomination or wrong, including the eating of pork or wearing clothes of mixed fabrics to be all that sinful, but you are blinded by the same spirit which makes you think you are reading the Bible properly.

Now, rather than defend your position any further, I want you to answer this question -- any other crap from you will be ignored. Where exactly in the Bible does it say "Love one another unless..."

Because if you do not see that you have qualified the statement of your savior, there is no hope for you of becoming spiritually aware.
#37 by J.K., Nov 25, 2007
The Bible says to love people, I am not saying that I don't, the Bible however is clear on this subject and It is BECAUSE I love people that I wrote this article, to make them aware...Whether you agree or not Lara does not change facts.

You said that I look like an idiot only because I call attention to the facts. You say I am blinded yet it seems you are the one who refuses to hear or see in the face of truth, so who is blind and deaf here?

Agree or Disagree facts are facts and my commentary on the matter is ended.

God Bless you
#38 by J.K., Nov 25, 2007
One last comment
(If you read it or ignore it Lara is your choice) As for what you said about "including the eating of pork or wearing clothes of mixed fabrics " that was under Old Testament Levitical law, We are under the blood of Christ now this is true and so the Law was fulfilled through Him.

Romans however is in the New Testament and still calls Homosexuality an abomination,just because Christ died for sinners does not mean he gave us a liscence to sin, instead we should strive to be as obedient to Christ as possible.

Granted anything genuinely repented of can be forgiven, because God leads a heart to repent.

As I said this was not written to debate as for you Lara nobody is forcing you to read this article and you seem to be the one craving debate I already made it perfectly clear that's not the purpose of this article so if you want a debate kindly take it elsewhere.
#39 by John, Nov 25, 2007
Ever heard of loving the sinner but hating the Sin? that is possible, God chastises us when we do wrong, yet still loves us.
So, just because Jupiter wrote this article to call attention to the fact that homosexuality is sin does not mean he hates anybody

he's just chastising where it is needed
#40 by Lara Tacita, Nov 25, 2007
Have you ever considered the possiblity the Bible might simply be wrong?

No, that wouldn't cross your mind. Jupiter needs to change his approach and he may be a good person, but his tone is judgmental and harsh. Then again, he claims he knows things he cannot possibly know.

Spirituality is not about clinging to the words of some old book, Jupiter, it's about making yourself a better person and you missed that somewhere along the line. Honestly, this post should never have appeared where it did.
#41 by Jupiter, Nov 25, 2007
Again I say Lara, I wrote the article to call attention to a need for repentance, Chastisement is sometimes harsh but at no point did I claim to know anything that I "Cannot Possibly know"

The Bible is the Word of God, and again I say that God gave people a mind,heart,soul and yes God gave people a conscience that testifies to the truth and gives conviction when we do wrong,

The Laws of God are written on every human heart. That is Fact,you know it as well as I do, some people however choose darkness and disobedience, I love people greatly and it is not God's will that any perish, but as I previously stated he will not force his will on anyone, anyway as I said I am not going to debate the issue, God's word is True and Eternal

God Bless all future readers, and may reason and God's truth guide you.

This is my final commentary at all on this article,If there are any further issues I suggest you take them up with God.

Thank you and take care all
#42 by Jossi, Dec 4, 2007
Very well I will take them up with God, in my heart (which is where I believe God is) I feel that love knows no gender line.

Perhaps I should also ask God why his Son kissed Judas (who was the SAME SEX)

Homosexuality is not immoral, what's immoral is bigotry, hate, intollerance and cruelty.

I have been to several different churches in my life, and they are all the same. Do what we say and have no thoughts of your own. The people I met who cruel and narrow minded, there is no love in a place like that.

Real true love knows no boundary, I have loved both sexes, it never felt wrong in my heart, none of it felt wrong at all.

#43 by Jupiter, Dec 4, 2007
Judas kissed Jesus because he was letting the gaurds know who to take, it was not a sexual kiss, it was a mocking kiss.Homosexuality is wrong, love knows no boundaries that's true, but homosexuality is lust of the flesh. read the book of Romans, chapter one.
#44 by A.B., Dec 4, 2007
love is not all about sex Jossi, a person can love people of the same gender without it being in a sexual way. Example: you love your brothers and sisters and family but you do not lust after them.
#45 by John, Dec 4, 2007
There is a Big difference between love and lust Jossi,just because people confuse the two very often does not make lust right, God gave us the ability to know the difference, as Jupiter said repeatedly, your conscience testifies to the fact, yes Fact that homosexuality is wrong.

A reprobate follows after the Lusts of their own hearts without conscience or repentance. As long as you have your conscience then you are not a reprobate but heed your conscience while you can,God is long suffering but not forever suffering.

as for what Jupiter said about Romans chapter 1 here\'s the verse it explains what reprobate means

even though it was already stated in comment 2 by Jupiter
I\'ll restate it.
Romans 1:24-32

1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

If you pursue the lusts of your flesh unrepentantly God will give you over to them

1 Timothy chapter 4 refers to those who have had their \"consciences seared with a hot iron\"
be very careful and heed your conscience while you have it.

God is patient and Loving, but he is also just and he is not mocked.
#46 by keyboardologist, Dec 16, 2007
Leviticus 18:22 reads: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination." Pretty easy to understand. The beginning of Leviticus 18 is entitled Laws of Sexual Morality (in the Bible I have). Jupiter, great article, and thanks very much for listening to my music.
#47 by Jupiter, Dec 16, 2007
Thanks Key, Good that somebody actually acknowledges the Laws of God, and May He bless and keep you well
#48 by Ashleigh, Dec 18, 2007
First of all I'm just going to say, I appologize that how I'm writing is not in anyway as aware of this stuff as you lot are and how the way I'm writing is not as posh and sort of fancy.
Well to be honest, personally I think that Homosexuality is in a way a choice to some extent, But hey, if you love someone you just do, doesn't matter, if theyre a man or a woman, black or white, fat or thin...I know that isn't how God planned it to be. But it turned out that way. I think that if they're are homosexual people that they are doing nothing wrong At all
thanks x
#49 by John, Dec 18, 2007
Ashleigh, if something is not the way God intended it to be then that makes it unnatural, and therefore a sin. If God wanted people to be homosexual he would not have created man and woman. read the Book of Leviticus and the Book of Romans both are quite clear on the issue you yourself stated "I know that isn't how God planned it to be. But it turned out that way." that shows you do know God's laws but it also implies you just don't care, and willfully, knowingly sinning is even worse than sinning out of ignorance.
#50 by John, Dec 18, 2007
P.S. Ashleigh, I was not trying to judge you only to call attention to your error and give correction, I apologize if it seemed harsh but since you obviously know God's Law then you shouldn't be condoning rebellion against it, instead, you too should be helping to minister to those who are walking in darkness and try to shed light on the error of their ways.
#51 by Look Ashleigh,, Dec 18, 2007
There is nothing wrong with natural love,God ordained natural love, between man and woman in the Garden of Eden when he first created Adam and Eve, but homosexuality is lust, and rebellion to the natural law as is made clear in Romans chapter 1,Leviticus and plenty of other places in the Bible, God condemns the practice of homosexuality and goes on to call it an abomination, so please whether you did it ignorantly or not, don't encourage something that God himself explicitly condemns
#52 by Confused, Jan 6, 2008
I\'m confused \"Look Ashleigh\" . . . how do you know that homosexuality is lust (not love) if you aren\'t a homosexual? I\'m not trying to stir anything up--I\'m genuinely confused by your comment. It seems strange to me that someone would claim to understand the basis of something (homosexuality) without having personal experience. And anyway, do you think that heterosexuality is always \"natural love\" and never lust? I think we\'d all have to disagree with that . . . or at least anyone who isn\'t living under a rock.

It brings up an interesting point for me as I have an acquaintance who is Christian and he believes (as you do) that homosexuality is lust. He has homosexual urges and acts on them now and then in the form of sexual acts only (lust?), but spends the rest of the time praising God, etc., and trying to avoid the temptation. It\'s confusing to me that that\'s \"okay\" (so to speak) as he asks for forgiveness and prays, etc., but it\'s an abomination for an openly gay person to be in a loving, committed relationship. That doesn\'t seem like lust to me. I\'m not trying to attack you, I\'m just lost.

I understand that the Bible is very important to you, but can you explain any of this in your own words based on your own experiences without referring to it? And when I say experiences I don\'t mean the drag queens and sexually promiscuous men you see portrayed in films--I mean honest to goodness experience knowing an emotionally stable gay man.

#53 by Look Ashleigh, Jan 6, 2008
To Confused first of all let me say this, apparently your friend knows what he is doing is Not "Okay" otherwise he would not be asking forgiveness, secondly I am not saying heterosexual people aren't subject to lustful temptations, but we do know right from wrong, and any homosexuality is completely contrary to the natural laws and therefore an abomination,I wasn't singling out homosexuals in committed relationships and the Bible does not make a distinction between homosexuals in committed relationships or other homosexuals, the fact that Homosexuality of any form is an abomination is clear. as Jupiter pointed out repeatedly our conscience is there to convict when we do wrong, If we willfully act on the lusts of our flesh we bring judgment on ourselves, God can and will forgive anything genuinely repented of, but He also knows if we are genuine or not.
#54 by Moses Ingram, Jan 18, 2008
You say in an earlier response that you wrote to inform not to debate. Who are you to inform another, are you God? Your only source is the the Bible, and that is open to interpretation. I feel sure that you don\'t believe this, but the fact is that most people do. Jesus Christ did not condemn homosexualty, and anyone striving to follow him should read and try to follow his teachings, especially in the sermon on the mount.
#55 by John, Jan 18, 2008
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

pretty clear, and supported by plenty of other verses in the Word of God, trying to debate with Jupiter will not change what is Written, so stop trying. As He said any complaints take them to God.
#56 by John, Jan 18, 2008
P.S. Moses, you either believe or you don't there is no staddling the fence and you cannot take the Bible and cut out the verses that don't suit you.
#57 by Jupiter, Jan 28, 2008
All those people with blasphemous,profane,obscene and derogatory comments stay off my page or you will be automatically spammed, I have stated repeatedly that I wrote this article to minister anything that is hindering to that will be considered spam. God does exist, creation itself testifies of His glory, your conscience bears witness to his existence as well, Heed your conscience while you can, God is Longsuffering but not forever suffering.
#58 by Dughlas, Feb 3, 2008
NOTE: Sorry if this is double listed/posted. My computer is acting kinda funny today.


Jupiter. This is a struggle I have been going through for several decades now. I have taken all these questions to God in prayer, in study, in action.

As far as the study portion goes, I have read papers and books, and listened to sermons galore of many different Christian (Protestant and Catholic) ministers, preachers, pastors, and Biblical scholars.

While you are correct in saying that the various listings of the homosexual acts listed in the Old Testament are levitical law, what does not seem to be taken into account is the time and language contexts in which they were written. The same goes for the New Testament passages quoted.

Any and all languages are going through their own \"cycles of life\" - they all have a birth, growth, and death. The Hebrew language and Greek language of today are not the same as they were 2000 to 5000 years ago. The same goes for the English language, though it is a much younger language.

Taken in the context of both the original languages and times in which these various passages were written, virtually every reference to homosexuality was directed to the pagan (and yes even sometimes Jewish) practices of ritual sex within the various temples and \"churches\" of the day. In no way can they be shown to refer to the same-sex type of love relationships that are recognized as homosexual today. They are referring strictly to \"temple prostitution\". Plain and simple.

Another thing to quickly point out as far as the New Testament goes, not even Jesus had anything to say about homosexual (same-sex) love relationships - not one word. Though he had plenty to say about straight (opposite-sex) relationships. His one comment in regards to Sodom and Gomorrah, if you carefully read his whole speech at that point, is in regards to how the disciples should react if they were not treated in accordance with the laws of hospitality. This was the offensive sin of those two cities that was so despicable to God in the Old Testament.

Yes, I am gay. Yes, I am a Christian. Yes, this is the consensus I have come to with God. Let the Bible translate and corroborate itself. If you want to express a personal opinion, state it as such. If you do not want any type of open-minded discussions about the topic, then keep your opinions to yourself. Remember that a mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.

Thank you for taking the time to listen with an open mind. And may God bless you.
#59 by Jupiter, Feb 3, 2008
Forgive me, but the Bible says God is unchanging, as are the Laws of God, I do not mind open discussions, but nothing stated was my opinion, it was all Biblical, the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was sexual immorality again I did not write this to condemn people, only the practice of Sexual immorality(Sodomy,homosexuality)

the verses by the way had nothing to do with Temple prostitution, I have no idea where that idea arose from, but it isn't Biblical. the verses SPECIFICALLY mentioned homosexuality

Leviticus 18:22 reads: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination." that is pretty clear.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Anyway God's word is clear and unchanging no matter how it's cut homosexuality is forever wrong,





#60 by P.S. From Jupiter, Feb 3, 2008
BTW when I said forgive me I meant forgive me for coming across harsh but sometimes harsh chastisement is necessary,

God created MAN and WOMAN for a reason, that is the way He intended it Male and Female, not homosexuality, if he wanted people to be homosexual he would have made us all the same gender, but He didn't . That in itself should tell you something, Natural Love is between Man and Woman, it has been that way since God 1st formed Adam in the Garden of Eden and formed Eve from his rib, God ordained Man and Woman, Homosexuality is now and forever has been and will be a sin
#61 by Rob, Feb 4, 2008
Many people will go to just about any length to justify doing what they know is wrong, how tragic, homosexuality can't be justified no matter how much people debate and argue and try to justify it.
God's Word is true, and just as valid today as it was when it was first given, God is the same Yesterday,Today and Forever
#62 by Ash, Feb 4, 2008
Homosexuality=Sodomy, remember what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah?
Homosexuality is sin, always has been,always will be,God is Love Yes, but as has been said He is not mocked,We will all stand before Him, what will you say then? You won't be able to say "Well in my opinion homosexuality is ok" because your conscience, heart and the Laws of God will be testifying that Homosexuality is wrong, we are not going to be judged by what WE think is right and wrong, we will be judged by what God says is right and wrong and God is unchanging, Christ came to seek and save, all he asks is our acceptance and Love, if we Love God we will WANT to obey God.

P.S. To those persecuting the author, he's just trying to minister, if you harden your own hearts then there will be no excuse, because you won't be able to say you were never told

May God\'s word and reason change hearts and lives,
this is my hope and my prayer
#63 by John, Feb 5, 2008
Buddha did not leave any teachings on homosexual orientation or homosexual behavior. He strongly encouraged his followers to \"be a lamp onto yourself\" -- to examine and test the truth of religious teachings before accepting them. My advise would be to do just that.

May Wisdom Shine In Your Life.
#64 by Ash, Feb 5, 2008
What does Buddha have to do with anything John? not trying to offend you personally but Jesus said "I am the Way,the Truth,and the Life, and no man comes to the father but by me" Clearly the Son of God himself made it known that there is no other path to heaven,

Jesus Christ is the Only Way

Acts 4:12 also says Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

As has been stated God is the same yesterday,today,and forever, Homosexuality IS wrong and that will never change


#65 by R.J., Feb 5, 2008
Your Conscience tells you homosexuality is wrong, there is no justifying sexually immoral behavior, as far as John's comment, Whether Buddha taught on homosexuality or not doesn't matter,
As has been said, we will not be judged based on man's standard, we will be judged by God's standard. Our own righteousness is as filthy rags, we cannot earn our way to heaven simply by being "good"

The Blood of Christ has cleansing power,He alone is righteous.
We are saved through faith, If we believe then we will be saved, if we do not believe, then we are condemned by our own unbelief, it is not God's will that any should perish, He gave Christ as the Sacrifice for our Sin
#66 by godless2, Feb 5, 2008
Jupiter,
If homosexuality is wrong in God's eye, why are you the one to inform us...I think you contradicted yourself by stating that God's words are written on the heart of his creatures....True? If so, why dont we all know....Again, why are you the one informing us.
#67 by Jupiter, Feb 5, 2008
to 67 I will respond with this, I am ministering because that is what we are called to do, "Go Ye into all the World and share the gospel with every creature" I didn't contradict myself, the laws of God are written on the hearts of His creatures, the reason we are to minister is to stir those hearts, as for what you said about "True? If so, why don't we all know" I will answer simply this way, everyone knows God's laws but some harden their hearts,God will not force anyone to repent, though he gives all ample opportunity,They bring judgment on themselves by the hardening of their own hearts.
#68 by P.S. from Jupiter, Feb 5, 2008
When I said We I am referring to Christians, God Loves us, that's Why he gave Christ,The greatest Gift God ever gave is His Only Begotten Son, who was beaten until he was unrecognizable and Hung upon the Cross of calvary, He died so that Whosoever will may come unto him and receive forgiveness of their sin,
#69 by Pan, Feb 7, 2008
Hi everyone.Hi Jupiter.Before i express my opinion i would like to say that i respect yours.First of all, i believe that people should listen to their HEARTS, they should try to be HAPPY.I am not gay, but I think those people are equal to as and have the right to be happy.Don't you think so?I don't believe in God,but I know that the most important thing Jesus tought pepole is love.WE CAN'T JUDGE OTHER PERSONS FOR THIS PART OF THEIR LIFE.Also, you should wonder about your sins,not homosexual's.God tells so.And also don't delete my commet just because I disagree with you.God also says that anyone can speak.I hope one day you will really love and respect others,as your God says.Open your heart and your mind in order to become a better person.
#70 by John, Feb 7, 2008
To Pan I will respond with the same commentary I wrote in the comment board of another article that was written by Lara Tacita in response to this one by Jupiter,

I do not see that the article by Jupiter is "pushing away" or judging anyone, I have read it thoroughly and it is merely a call to repentance, something we all need,sometimes chastisement is harsh but sometimes that is necessary,

it's like when you are a child and your mother says "don't touch the stove, it's hot" you may think she's hard on you, but later when you see your friend who's mother never warned them go and burn their hand, you'll be glad your mother chastised you, and though your friend learned the hard way he will surely pass on why it's bad to touch the stove, thereby preventing others from getting burned.

Also I'd like to say one more thing,

anyone who repents can and will receive mercy, I am not disputing or discounting that at all , I am simply saying without repentance there can be no forgiveness, While this particular discussion is about homosexuality, repentance is necessary for the forgiveness of ANY sin, I believe this was written only to call attention to the necessity of repentance,would you rather people be corrected and chastised and realize the need for salvation or that they perish in their sin because they continue to think it is ok?
#71 by John, Feb 7, 2008
To "A Friend," All I can say is your conscience and heart and God's Word All Bear Witness to the existence of God,The God of Abraham, the Living,True, and Eternal Creator.

God is the same Yesterday,Today and Forever and his offer of Salvation is freely given to all who will repent and accept the Gift of God ,His Only Begotten Son,Jesus Christ. He died for all who would come unto him

I will Pray for You

by the way it is Christianity not Christianism,

Anyway may your heart be open

P.S. read Hebrews 3:15 if you get a chance,
God Bless
#72 by Jupiter, Feb 7, 2008
Dear "A Friend"

Your comment has been removed due to the fact that it is hindering the goal of this article. As I said this article is meant to minister.
The main reason your comment was removed is that your Unbelief is detrimental to that.

As far as that goes I can only hope that your heart be opened as John said,


You have very interesting thoughts however, and I do think we should try being nice to all as you suggest, but that does not mean we should condone sin.

#73 by John, Feb 11, 2008
To J-LOW, God is not waiting for people to mess up, but when a person is deliberately sinning against him they in fact hinder their own blessings

Proverbs 28:9
"He that turneth away from hearing the Law, even his prayer shall be abomination"

While that is Old Testament,it is just as true and valid today, the Bible states The Laws of God are on our hearts, as our conscience affirms, when a person ignores the Laws written on their hearts, trouble naturally follows

However if we are faithful and obedient to the Laws of God written on our hearts, we will be blessed.

Keep in mind Hebrews 3:15
While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.

God does not will that any should perish, but that all would come to repentance

As for the tribulations of this world, they are temporary(as is our flesh and blood) and we can overcome

I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me Philippians 4:13

#74 by Jupiter, Feb 11, 2008
J-LOW your comment has been removed due to derogatory commentary, I suggest you read your bible, and don't just read it but try to understand it, do not go spouting off calling God a tyrant when you know as well as I do He isn't.

God Loves Us, but He is not mocked, as a well known poet once said
"The wrath of God falls only on the people of Disobedience",
those that are knowingly and willingly walking according to their own lusts

Something to think about,
God Bless,
Sincerely
#75 by Norma Sorensen, Feb 16, 2008
33 "liked it" Scary. Once again, someone who believes in one doctrine trying to make everyone else believe it too. Whatever a person feels about homosexuality (and honestly--why do we care so much?), I'd like to think that there are far bigger and pressing messages from the "good book"--like tolerance and brotherly love, for example.
I don't believe the bible is the word of God, so why would I think it were important what it has to say about homosexuality? It is a book of stories that has moral lessons in it. And like everything else written by man and woman, take what you need and leave the rest. I do not condemn others for how they live, as long as they do not hurt anyone else. Period. There are so many good things written about living well--why get hung up on a book that has been changed so much throughout history by people with their own agendas?
As for deleting comments you don't like and telling people you don't want a debate, well--why did you post it? Did you think people would just read it and agree? Typical of anyone who can't see past their own backdoor. Take care, all, and peace. Norma
#76 by Jupiter, Feb 16, 2008
Norma, As I said I wrote this article as a call to repentance for those hat know they need it, the comments that were deleted were deleted because they were argumentative, some were hostile, and hindering the goal of this article, which is to minister, The Bible is the Word of God Whether you want it to be or not,and God is the same yesterday,today and forever.

The Bible is meant to teach people morality and Godly Living, you cannot just "take what you need and leave the rest", if you do you are missing the purpose of why it was written, As for Homosexuality, it is lust of the flesh as is made clear in Romans Chapter One, and the documentation in Genesis of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah due to the unrepentance and immorality they practiced.

God reaches hearts that are tender, I pray yours is.

God Bless
#77 by Kassi, Feb 19, 2008
I would just like to thank you all for your genuineness. As a young teen, I remember staring at other women and admiring their \\\"attributes\\\" if you will. I had no idea I had gay tendencies, never even thought about it until I joined the military and women began to hit on me, and I liked it. I began to masturbate and think of naked women and be with women. I lusted after women so bad I couldn\\\'t take it anymore. I really believed that I was a full blown lesbian and no one knew the truth. One Wednesday evening, a friend of mine brought me to church, I had no idea what was in store for me, all I knew was through the preaching and examining my own heart, I knew it was a choice and I could get rid of all those desires if I really wanted to, it was a life or death situation and I chose life. Here I am now, almost 10 years later, still completely delivered, I renounced homosexuality and could really feel Jesus\\\' love tugging on my heart. I then realized was that my homosexual nature came from a distorted self image. I really denied it but really my self image sucked.
Please all of you that think this is a joke, it\\\'s not!!!! I have been there and it is a CHOICE!!! I never realized it until I softened my heart to the gospel. Now I no longer feel that longing, I have a wonderful family and feel the union that ideally all should feel, the oneness between a husband and his wife. There is no greater feeling than this whether its emotionally, spiritually, sexually etc.
Beloved do not let the enemy lie to you!!!! I hope people heed these words before it is too late. Why do people think people are condemning them for being different when everything we share is out of BROTHERLY LOVE??? We do not have a choice! We are the ones who will be accountable for your blood on our hands if we do not share the good news with you even if it makes us the most unpopular people on this earth, Christians have a mission that we must fulfill while we are here. It\\\'s like some people are just condemning themselves by rejecting a free gift. The bottom line is, it does not really matter what you believe, The Word of God is the bible, it has the POWER to restore people, change lives, heal sickness and has never been proven wrong no matter how many times people try, trust me. Thank you. With love, Kassi
#78 by Kassi, Feb 19, 2008
I would just like to thank you all for your genuineness. As a young teen, I remember staring at other women and admiring their \\\"attributes\\\" if you will. I had no idea I had gay tendencies, never even thought about it until I joined the military and women began to hit on me, and I liked it. I began to masturbate and think of naked women and be with women. I lusted after women so bad I couldn\\\'t take it anymore. I really believed that I was a full blown lesbian and no one knew the truth. One Wednesday evening, a friend of mine brought me to church, I had no idea what was in store for me, all I knew was through the preaching and examining my own heart, I knew it was a choice and I could get rid of all those desires if I really wanted to, it was a life or death situation and I chose life. Here I am now, almost 10 years later, still completely delivered, I renounced homosexuality and could really feel Jesus\\\' love tugging on my heart. I then realized was that my homosexual nature came from a distorted self image. I really denied it but really my self image sucked.
Please all of you that think this is a joke, it\\\'s not!!!! I have been there and it is a CHOICE!!! I never realized it until I softened my heart to the gospel. Now I no longer feel that longing, I have a wonderful family and feel the union that ideally all should feel, the oneness between a husband and his wife. There is no greater feeling than this whether its emotionally, spiritually, sexually etc.
Beloved do not let the enemy lie to you!!!! I hope people heed these words before it is too late. Why do people think people are condemning them for being different when everything we share is out of BROTHERLY LOVE??? We do not have a choice! We are the ones who will be accountable for your blood on our hands if we do not share the good news with you even if it makes us the most unpopular people on this earth, Christians have a mission that we must fulfill while we are here. It\\\'s like some people are just condemning themselves by rejecting a free gift. The bottom line is, it does not really matter what you believe, The Word of God is the bible, it has the POWER to restore people, change lives, heal sickness and has never been proven wrong no matter how many times people try, trust me. Thank you. With love, Kassi
#79 by Jupiter, Feb 19, 2008
Thank You Kassi for sharing your Testimony,may it reach many hearts

Forever and steadfastly
in Faith
God Bless
#80 by Ulairion, Mar 4, 2008
Wow, I came in here 10 seconds ago and the smell of bigotry is already making me sick. Before I get the tapdancing hell out of here, I would like to ask a few questions:

1- Why are you so obsessed/upset about things other people do? We're talking here about consenting adults doing things on the privacy of their own homes, without disturbing anyone else. Ever heard of "live and let live"?
2- Why does the judeochristian God gets so annoyed with homosexuality? He can't stand love between two men or women, but he gives his blessings to armies, killers, genocides, etc. So, if I got it straight, kissing a guy gets you deep into hell but murder is A-OK?
3- How do you know the Bible is the true word of God? I mean, otherwise than "'cause the Bible says so". No circular reasonings please.
4- BTW, how do you know that there is a god, or that the one you worship is the right one? What if when you die you see Thor nodding his head, and you are then kicked from Valhalla? What if god is actually the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

And, I remind you, faith IS NOT A VALID ARGUMENT for anything. You can believe all that you want, but I'm sure you look both sides before crossing the street.
#81 by Jupiter, Mar 4, 2008
I will answer each question individually, one at a time

1- Why are you so obsessed/upset about things other people do? We're talking here about consenting adults doing things on the privacy of their own homes, without disturbing anyone else. Ever heard of "live and let live"?

Homosexuality is Sin and Lust causes all sorts of disease besides, also I love people and care about their Souls.

as for your 2nd question
2- Why does the judeochristian God gets so annoyed with homosexuality? He can't stand love between two men or women, but he gives his blessings to armies, killers, genocides, etc. So, if I got it straight, kissing a guy gets you deep into hell but murder is A-OK?

God does not Bless killers or genocides, the only time that armies are mentioned is when Israel was defending themselves because they were attacked by their enemies and Since Israel are God's chosen, He naturally defends them.

as for your third question,

3- How do you know the Bible is the true word of God? I mean, otherwise than "'cause the Bible says so". No circular reasonings please.

Because Our Conscience testifies of God, His word, and His Laws written on our Hearts.

as for your 4th question

4- BTW, how do you know that there is a god, or that the one you worship is the right one? What if when you die you see Thor nodding his head, and you are then kicked from Valhalla? What if god is actually the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

my answer to your 3rd question is also my answer to your 4th

God Bless
#82 by Look People, Mar 8, 2008
According To the Center for Disease Control, 52% of all AIDS cases afflict the homosexual community, Homosexuality is a deadly practice, People dieing senselessly and for what? Those that you call "bigots" are only trying to save people from a practice that could kill them Please, WAKE UP, We do not need to lose any more Loved ones to their own Self destructive behaviors. further, I do not think they that you call "bigots" are pushing people away from God at all, Why do homosexuals so frequently think people that try to minister are judging them for "being different" when everything we do is actually for their own good and to get them to DRAW CLOSE To God and Seek His calling for their lives rather than the Lusts of their own hearts?
#83 by P,S,, Mar 8, 2008
My comment was directed @ those bashing the author,He only writes out of Love for people, it is obvious He has a passion for souls, to all who come across his page,
be blessed.
#84 by John, Mar 10, 2008
Dear Ulairion, Studies actually have shown that there is a link between homosexual behavior and AIDS. It is responsible for 52% of AIDS cases, promiscuity and drug use are responsible for 36% while the heterosexual HIV stats are 11%, then 1 percent come from blood transfusions,Your conscience testifies of God, that's stone cold fact,I have no idea where you get your belief that "the Third Reich had the blessing of the church" but I'd say be careful where you get your information, there are some that abuse the Christian faith but God cannot be blamed for that, As for Sodom and Gomorrah, they were destroyed because they did detestable things.

The hardness of men's hearts and rebellion is what leads to their destruction, in Hitler's case he was a very callous man, people allow their own hearts to be hardened, God Loves us, but He will not force anyone to repent, Everything we do has consequences, good or bad that is a fact, You seem to be missing J.K.'s point, He is tired of people dying needlessly because they refuse to do what they know is right. You asked J.K. Why he bothers, it is to wake people up,to show them that God does not will that they perish,

He has great plans for those that will receive Him. Whosever Will may come unto Jesus, God knows who will take in those words, but He also knows there will be some that don\'t choose to take them in because they've hardened their own hearts, It is not His will that any perish, He gave Christ to Save.
#85 by Ann Onymous, Mar 10, 2008
AIDS is not isolated to the homosexual community, no, but the majority of cases are found among them, the stats that John posted are from the CDC themselves, homosexual and bisexual activity greatly increase the risk of AIDS, and several of the heterosexuals that contract AIDS contract it from a partner who is (or was) an active bisexual. It is believed by some researchers that that is how it originally spread into the heterosexual populous to begin with. Research has proved repeatedly there is an obvious link, Immorality kills, it's that simple, we are not trying to be bigots, just trying to open people's eyes.
#86 by Gaye, Apr 13, 2008
Aids has been spread throughout the whole world in an exceptionally short few years simply because some homosexuals were bi sexual putting it into the hetrosexual community, but regardless, it spread it an alarming rate because of our promiscurity..I have cut out much of this article to fit it in.

Infectious Diseases are a plight of homosexuals, at an incredibly far, far greater rate to heterosexuals.
Even after washing, the smell, faeces, germs, viruses stay in the pores and folds of the penis hrs after the act, collecting and passing it on as they go.

Homosexuality and Infectious Diseases: Bedfellows

In the mid-20th century, male homosexuals constituted about 8% of men afflicted with anal cancer; by the mid-1980s, this figure had risen to 72%. (1) The transmission of certain types of human papilloma viruses explains the association of anal intercourse with anal cancer. (2) In an examination of 3,391 Danish men in registered homosexual partnerships, followed for an average of 4.6 years, the incidence of anal cancer was 31-fold higher and the incidence of Kaposi’s sarcoma was 136-fold higher compared to Danish men in general. (3) Anal carcinomas among male homosexuals can approach 4-7 inches in diameter. (4)

During 1982-1989, MSM constituted less than 10% of individuals with hepatitis-A. (5) During the first 6 months of 1991, 29% of the hepatitis-A cases in Denver, 66% in New York City, 50% in San Francisco, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne consisted of homosexuals. (5) Between Nov 1998 and May 1999, among the reported cases of hepatitis-A in Columbus, Ohio, 66% of the men were MSM. (6)
In a sample of 735 MSM in San Francisco, 4.6% had hepatitis-C and 81% had hepatitis-B infection. (7) Hepatitis-B appears to be transmitted 8.6-fold more efficiently than HIV-1 among homosexual men, according to a study. (8)
Not only did homosexuals bring about the AIDS epidemic in America, the weakened immune system of AIDS patients brought a resurgence of tuberculosis too. Health care workers that deal with AIDS patients risk getting tuberculosis. (9)

During the 1990s, syphilis occurred predominantly among African-American heterosexuals in the South and in large cities. (10) In Seattle, syphilis declined from 1987 to 1996, but a syphilis outbreak occurred around 1997. The outbreak was traced to a cluster of homosexuals. 68% of syphilis patients were MSM, among whom 66% were also HIV-positive. Most MSM were 30 years or older (i.e., old enough to know what they were doing) and had recruited many anonymous partners. (11)
As of 2003, the incidence of syphilis was on the rise in San Francisco, mostly occurring among MSM, and two-thirds of the new cases were occurring in individuals already infected with HIV.
From 1990 to 2001, early infectious syphilis and (ano)genital gonorrhoea among those attending an outpatient STD clinic of the Amsterdam municipal health service sharply increased; homosexual men were almost entirely responsible for this increase.
It hardly needs mentioning who gets rectal gonorrhoea. Homosexuals also get gonorrhoea in the penis (urethral gonorrhoea) and mouth (pharyngeal gonorrhoea).

A 2004 U.S. report mentioned increasing drug-resistant gonorrhoea among MSM; the incidence of this drug-resistant form of gonorrhoea was 12-fold higher in MSM compared to the general population. (19)

Parasitic intestinal infections are common among homosexuals; they result from the consumption of faecal material via rimming and other sexual practices (see here). A sexual transmission of typhoid, and a first of its kind in the U.S., occurred among a group of male homosexuals in 2000 (see here). Amebic liver abscess, a disease usually found in developing tropical countries is found elsewhere among individuals who have visited these countries and also among MSM. (20)

Between December 1999 and November 2001, multidrug-resistant C. jejuni jejuni was found in the intestines of some male homosexuals in Montreal, Canada, and appeared to have been acquired via sexual activity. (21)
A 1990 report from a Ft. Lauderdale, FL clinic noted that up to 55% of homosexual men with anorectal symptoms had gonorrhoea, 80% of the patients with syphilis were homosexual men, 15% of asymptomatic homosexual men had Chlamydia, and about 1 in 3 male homosexuals had active anorectal herpes simplex infection. (22) Additionally, intestinal infections that normally result from eating food contaminated with human feces were rampant in the homosexual community. (22)
A 2003 U.S. report mentioned the emergence of a multi-drug-resistant bacterial skin infection among homosexual men in some cities and also some prisons. In the past, this infection was mainly limited to hospitals. (23)
Until recently, the hepatitis-C virus has been mainly transmitted via sharing needles for intravenous drug use and blood or plasma transfusions. (24) However, male homosexuals have started to make a significant contribution to the spread of the hepatitis-C virus via risky sexual behaviours. Perhaps this is why the red Cross wont take the blood of homosexual men..
and there is a mass if references at the bottom which I can also put in if you want them..here are 4 of the 25..
S. D. Wexner, J. W. Milsom, T. H. Dailey, Dis Colon Rectum 30, 942 (Dec, 1987).
M. Frisch et al., N Engl J Med 337, 1350 (Nov 6, 1997).
M. Frisch, E. Smith, A. Grulich, C. Johansen, Am J Epidemiol 157, 966 (Jun 1, 2003).
J. P. Cobb, W. P. Schecter, T. Russell, Dis Colon Rectum 33, 135 (Feb, 1990).
#87 by Gaye, Apr 13, 2008
Homosexuals Die Young
The Biological Swapmeet
The typical sexual practices of homosexuals are a medical horror story - imagine exchanging saliva, feces, semen and/or blood with dozens of different men each year. Imagine drinking urine, ingesting feces and experiencing rectal trauma on a regular basis. Often these encounters occur while the participants are drunk, high, and/or in an orgy setting.

Smokers and drug addicts don't live as long as non-smokers or non-addicts, so we consider smoking and narcotics abuse harmful. The typical lifespan of homosexuals suggests that their activities are more destructive than smoking and about as dangerous as drugs.

6,737 obituaries from 18 U.S. homosexual journals over the past 13 years were compared to a large sample of obituaries from regular newspapers.5 The obituaries from the regular newspapers were similar to U.S. averages for longevity: the median age of death of married, never-divorced men was 75 and 80% of them died old (age 65 or older). For unmarried or divorced men the median age of death was 57 and 32% of them died old. Married, never-divorced women averaged 79 at death; 85% died old. Unmarried and divorced women averaged age 71 and 60% of them died old.

The median age of death for homosexuals, however, was virtually the same nationwide - and, overall, about 2% survived to old age. If AIDS was the cause of death, the median age was 39. For the 829 gays who died of something other than AIDS, the median age of death was 42 and 9% died old. The 163 lesbians had a median age of death of 44 and 20% died old.

Even when AIDS was not involved, homosexuals frequently met an early demise. Three percent of gays died violently. They were 116 times more apt to be murdered, much more apt to commit suicide, and had high traffic-accident death-rates. Heart attacks, cancer and liver failure were exceptionally common. 18% of lesbians died of murder, suicide, or accidents - a rate 456 times higher than that of white females aged 25-44.5 Age distributions of samples of homosexuals in the scientific literature from 1858 to 1997 suggest a similarly shortened lifespan. . . .
The Gay Legacy
Homosexuals rode into the dawn of sexual freedom and returned with multiple plagues that may very well destroy most of them. Those who treat AIDS patients are at great risk, not only from HIV infection, which, as of 1996 involved about 200 health care workers, but also from TB and new strains of other diseases. Those who are housed with AIDS patients are also at risk.

At least 8 new sexually transmitted germs were identified between 1980 and 1997. Dr. Max Essex, chair of the Harvard AIDS Institute, warned Congress in 1992 that "AIDS has already led to other kinds of dangerous epidemics. .
Yep, this is sure something we want for our children...
#88 by diane, Jun 15, 2008
I have been reading all the comments, and I can see there are so many that have not known the joy of having Christ in their hearts. While I will not claim to be an expert on the Bible and all the verses, I have studied enough to know what is acceptable in God\'s eyes and what is not. So many times people want to pick and choose which part of God\'s word they want to follow and ignore the rest. I was at one point in my life one of those people, I was fooling myself, but not God. As to the original message trying to be conveyed in this forum, I did not see where Corinthians 6 was mentioned. Verse 9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders Verse 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. To take it further in Corninthians God tells us in verses 12 thru 20-
12\"Everything is permissible for me\"—but not everything is beneficial. \"Everything is permissible for me\"—but I will not be mastered by anything. 13\"Food for the stomach and the stomach for food\"—but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. 15Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, \"The two will become one flesh.\"[b] 17But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit.
18Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.

God gave us a promise of everlasting life, and it is something I have chosen to accept that gift. For those that are living for the now, my heart aches for what you have ahead of you. May you someday accept God\'s gift and you will know the joy that goes beyond anything you have known. If nothing else, remember that if the Rapture comes and you survive, you have the tribulation period to come to Christ, but it will be a time on this earth that will be frightening, painful, and will take great strength to survive the suffering. Please remember these words, or better yet, seek Christ\'s love now and give your heart and life to Him now. You won\'t regret it, I promise.
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