BC Drivers License

i hear you. im in an even worse boat than you. i havent gotten my L yet and i'm 18! the whole lengthened process just makes me less and less eager to go and get my license, until finally now i realize im two years behind and i have another three before i can finally be an equal. i've just got out of high school, but now if i want to be on par with other drivers, im going to have to wait till im 21! ridiculous!

Doctors, lawyers, judges, police officers, and even ICBC can make mistakes. Its human nature. If they want to improve the road safety and at the same time stop crime everywhere. Then lets try being a little more intelligent. We are Canadians. Were supposed to be known as the nicest people on Earth cause we are so inviting and friendly to everybody we meet. Our mothers and fathers, grandmothers and grandfathers grew up on these beliefs. But somewhere along the way we became selfish. We started taking everything in life for granted and stopped being thankful for what we already had. Our children then grew up and stopped respecting others. They went out into the world with no knowledge of finances, consequence, or values and beliefs. As a result the Youth of this generation have become lost. They don\'t no longer have the values and beliefs that older generations possess. And Punishing the younger youth isn\'t going to make them see ICBC or anybody that supports them in any positive light. SO who is to blame? ICBC? The Youth who are only acting on the values and beliefs that they have learned from there Family and Friends? I believe it is the lack of parenting in this world that has lead to so much crime in today\'s world. So I want you think about something. Do you think other countries like Japan have such low crime rates because they have such strict laws? No. Canada is in the Top 10 countries with the highest crime rates. So why is this? It\'s because people in Japan raise there kids on such strict values and beliefs at a young age so that they will not disobey the law. Sure the Law does have a small influence on the population because the laws threaten the parents and the parents fear for there children. So they educate there kids at a young age on values and beliefs that will only improve there qualities of life. These values and beliefs are what keep the younger generations on a focused track. These values and beliefs are what stop them from committing crimes. The problem with Canada and British Columbia is that we lack to teach our kids the values and beliefs to survive in the world of today. Sure some parents have educated there kids right. But most parents dont educate there kids right on the right values and beliefs. Even ICBC\'s employees have kids. Are there kids following the law? Most likely, because ICBC employees make it there first priority to ensure that there kids recieve the values and beliefs that respect the law. Some other families do this aswell. Most religions also do this. But so many kids get out into the world and experience this kind of extreme law enforcement for the first time and have no awareness of its capabilities. It\'s like sending a young boy to Juno Beach with no army training at all. He\'ll walk right into a trap and die. Not even knowing what happened. Same thing applies to the generation following the laws of ICBC. There walking right into a trap. And ICBC thinks that they have to sharpen the laws more to stop crime from happening. But thats not the intelligent way to look at it. The more intelligent route is to start educating our children on not only the laws of the road but the laws of mankind. Most parents will tell there kids that killing something such as an insect, a small animal is a crime and they imprint that belief brutally into there childs mind. Most of us have learned this belief at a young age and as a result not to many people will kill another person. So lets get started on better parenting. A young driver isn\'t going to drink and drive if his/her parents have given that child the values and beliefs that say Alcohol and vehicles dont mix. If a child heres that enough growing up and is traumatized by it at a young age then they\'ll never drink and drive. Thats how we learn our fears and strengths. And that applies to everything including fear of spiders, fear of debt, fear of the law. Parenting should be a part of a students school curriculum. It has been proven that children will do better in school if they are rewarded for there accomplishments instead of punished for there failures. And sometimes people wont even link fear of something to the right thing. Like when a driver recieves a ticket they could link pain to driving. But most people end up linking pain to the Person and organization giving the ticket. Better parenting is the only solution. Better parenting would stop murders, drinking and driving, robberies, rapes, armed thefts, discrimination, racism, stereotyping, bullying, fighting, Anything you can manifest as a crime in your mind could be prevented if we raised children with the right beliefs to succeed in life. If you told a child to always respect there elders they\'d respect there elders. Especially if you gave them a reason why they need to respect there elders. If you tell a child to respect ICBC, the police, and the law. And told them why at a young age. Then they\'d almost certainly respect the law, police officers, and ICBC. So help me in my quest to change the world. Cause I dont blame ICBC for everything. Cause we as a society have kind of forced them into this situation. And as a result they have had to force us into a difficult situation to. So who will make the first move? Who will help me ensure a future for mankind?

Yeah. Isn't it sad they will let us go off to war in Afganistan and risk our lives before they'll let us have two passengers in our own cars. Like come on. Being in a vehicle while getting shot at isn't safer then driving on a road with 18 year olds with their full driving permits.

This message pertains to "The Truth". That actually a good idea to leave BC. Cause I'm currently finishing my Pharmacy Program. Meaning I'm going to be a pharmacist. Perfect! ICBC just found a a good reason to drive Doctors, lawyers, and Pharmacists from ever wanting to work in BC. And you wonder why there is such a shortage of doctors, and even workers for that matter in BC. Cause in order to get a most jobs in BC your need a class 5 drivers license. And you need to have your own transportation. Why would I want to live in a province where I am discriminated against cause of my age? WHen I can go south into the states and get my full drivers license in 6 months with no restrictions and work for equal if not a higher wage in better weather, and a driving system that actually makes sense! Humans are designed to make mistakes. And what your going to see and are already seeing is not a way for ICBC to save money but there new system is actually costing the Government and Public more money! Cause by establishing these new driving rules it causes more drivers with there class 7 ans 5 licenses to debate there tickets cause they have no choice. If they dont dispute there tickets then they'll lose there licenses and cant get to there jobs, school, sources of stimulation. Now who do you think pays for the trial hearings that take place cause of tickets? The public tax dollars pay for the court trials and disputes. SO your money from your taxes is going to pay for the tickets getting disputed in court. So now the courts are overwhelmed, ICBC is overwhelmed with disputes, tax dollars rise, you cant get a trial for almost a year. Meanwhile your sitting at home wondering where all your money is going to. When in fact 50% of your wages are going into taxes to pay for my court hearing. Thanks by the way! And all of this happens cause of the new rules put in place by ICBC. It affects us all even if we dont want it to. Welcome to British Columbia. Take a number.

I took road tests at the Surrey office to get my N, but the examiners were nothing more than a bunch of f---ing a--holes because they failed my for bullsh*t mistakes. In fact this one moron I had said my scans "weren't on time". BS as far as I'm concerned, which is why I avoid that location at all costs. You can thank Rich Coleman, the alpha a--hole for changing all the rules and justifying new penalties in order eat people's money and shove it were the sun don't shine.

I have a different issue at hand. I have had the N for 10 years now. I refuse to go for a road test because it is a huge money grabber and frankly it is a waist of my time. Not only have I been driving in Canada, particularly BC, for 10 years, I have driven all over the world, including US and Europe. Yet, I still have to display N because, apparently, I am a new driver. So, my question is when do you become an experienced driver? Just because I do a road test with a biased examiner, that may have less experience than me, this will make me an experienced driver? This totally makes no sense. I tried to do a driver's test within my first 5 years of my Class 7 licence, but I did not pass because I was driving "too fast". I may have gone 2 km above the speed limit at certain times during my test but not constantly (I know this for a fact because the examiner warned me about speed couple of times). Obviously, I do not constantly stare at the speedometer while I am driving because I think there are far more important things to watch out for while driving. This is why I refuse to take another road exam and feed the government money. I pay enough in taxes as it is. Talking to other people, they always fail you the first time you take the Graduated licensing test (to get rid of your N). Well, I am not prepared to pay $200 to get a class 5 license. I love driving in Europe, esp. Germany, because all the drivers follow the rules. Maybe it has to do with the fact that when they first learn to drive they all have to go to a driving school for a year before they get a driver's license.