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The Art of Playing the Israeli Dating Field

When moving to a foreign country, you expect many complications and adjustment issues to arise. One thing I didn't consider before moving to the Middle East was that I'd have to change the way I am in relationships.

There is one thing that is an interesting art, to me, in Israel. It has to do with guys and girls and how they interact with one another. Girls, as we know, are notorious for wanting to have a serious relationship, and will usually try to make it work with just about anybody. The opposite is for guys, who, in turn, prefer to have something non-committal, but with all of the benefits of a relationship that is serious.

I've personally tried a variety of approaches. The let him call you only approach, which produces one of two results, generally. One, he doesn't call and you leave it at that. Two, he calls way too much and you just want to get him out of your sight/mind/etc. Another is the show you're totally interested approach, which is usually one that doesn't work, because then they guy will get scared. I had, however, done the opposite once, and I ran into the guy again later, when he said I should have called him more and we would have been something, like he and his new girlfriend ouch. The other is to call only occasionally, and to let him do the same to you. This sort of works, until he gets what he wants from you (or discovers he's not going to) and then he ceases calling you and you end up feeling like an idiot for calling too much.

Truthfully, I haven't found anything that works yet. I've seen girls get tons of guys all over them, and what are they left with in the end? Nothing serious. Guys come and go here, it's weird. Also, it's weird to see the guy who told you he is not sure if he wants anything serious to have a steady girlfriend all of the sudden.

So then the single girl residing in Israel starts to try to figure out what's wrong with her, that she can't get a serious, good, boyfriend. I remember a couple of times some guys who say they want to be friends with benefits and maybe let that grow into something, who knows. By the way, the "friends" thing is really ridiculous and they only want the benefits. But I have seen something like this work out to the girl's benefit to, and she ended up getting the guy...

My advice? Be yourself. Eventually someone will want to be serious, but keep your options open in the meantime. Until then, you will get a variety of guys (hot or not, nice or not, smart or not), and have fun playing them. Call them once every now and then (I recommend about 2 weeks for someone who doesn't call you so much, 1 week for someone who does - good to return the positive favor.) Also, if you see them regularly, don't call them regularly, either. Try to make a point of making half of the phone calls literally under 2 minutes each, and let it be about business (say, if the guy runs a business you like to frequent or has a service you or a friend could use, call only for that purpose... or to ask which bus line goes where, etc, you get the idea). Anytime you call him, let it be under 10 minutes (think about your phone bill!) but if he calls you, talk up to a half hour, maybe an hour if it's going super well and you just met him. SMS no more than twice a week.

I personally hated and still hate playing games, but what is a girl to do? These guys don't know what they want or are afraid to admit it, so you might as well manipulate them. Also, try to get out of them what you can (if it's a manager of a club, get in for free always. If it's an owner of a restaurant or store, get something for free. Hell, even if it's a soldier, see if he'll throw in a field uniform shirt for you - the dress uniforms are difficult to get too many of sometimes)

Oh yeah, and for any Israeli men reading this... you're either laughing because you know it's true or you're getting upset because you think it's not you. If it's the first, add (anonymously) what you think works to get one of you to commit. If it's the latter, email me! If we're not good for each other, chances are, I have plenty girls lined up that just might be.

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Comments (8)
#1 by IcyCucky, Nov 21, 2007
Very interesting article, LionessofGD.
#2 by Jake85, Nov 22, 2007
Yea Right!
#3 by Anne Lyken-Garner, Nov 22, 2007
I don't think any of these strategies work unfortunately. I'm happily married, but when my husband and I dated we did no such thing.

We both called each other when we felt like speaking to one another. We agreed on a time to speak every day and just did it. The calls lasted for as long as we could make them last. I never used him and he never used me.

If it can't be a relationship without games, it's not worth it. People who play games before marriage, continue to do so after. Afterall, what incentive is there to stop? Certainly not a ring.
#4 by LionessofGd, Nov 22, 2007
Anne -

This article is for Israeli dating :) The dynamic here is a little different in dealing with relationships... but thanks for your comment!
#5 by Ruby Hawk, Nov 24, 2007
I guess I am an old fashioned girl but the guy I have been with for 5 years is old fashioned too, so it worked for us.
#6 by francie, Nov 25, 2007
I really liked this article! I had a smile on my face throughout.
I'm quite familiar with dating Israeli's although not living in the homeland. I so enjoyed hearing about your experiences on the dating life in Israel.

I wish you all the very best!!

Take good care,
Francie
#7 by Ima, Nov 26, 2007
It's not only Israeli men who think and act in that manner. You should already know how they are out in California and probably even worse when it comes to commitment!

Hopefully in Israel, they don't have, "baby mama's". Those are the ones who may have a handful of children and all with different "sperm donors" which most likely reside in a 24/7 gate guarded community (jail or prison) by now.

So what do you do if you want a good man? Be patient.. Keep your standards high, and make sure he has good moral values. A religious or semi-religious man might be the best one for you. One more thing. Okay, a couple of things. If there are any things which might irritate you with their habits, rule out those guys first! i.e. alcoholics, illegal drug users, criminals, and those irritating liberal democrats!

Remember.. Men are no different from fish. There are plenty of them out there. You can always throw them back!! (catch and release!)

Your article was well written. Great job!
#8 by iliana, Jan 6, 2008
this is the best article I have read in a long time, soooo sooo true. I live in Israel /America and it's the same story with Israeli guys no matter what except in Israel they pull the disappearing act a little more often. And my favorite line ever is I'm not like all the other Israeli guys, I'm different you'll see. Good luck finding the one.
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