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Is Religion Still Relevant?

In history, we have seen the rise and ebb of different schools of thought that uphold either the "death of God or gods" or the demise of the Church. To date, there is all the more reason to question whether religion is still relevant.

A student of modern philosophy is definitely acquianted with Friedrich Nietzsche's declaration that God is dead.  Of course, this great philosopher of the 19th century, who was a son of a Lutheran pastor and a devout housewife, was not the first and the last to make such a claim.  Actually, to date, Michel Onfry's "Atheist Manifesto" and Christopher Hitchens' "God is not Great" are but two of the books arguing for the obsolescence of religion and the concept of God.

An in-depth study of what prompts these thinkers to arrive to such conclusion would reveal that it was precisely their observation of religion's irrelevance -- in particular to social and individual human existence.  Unlike, say, in the Middle Ages, when the Church was the dominating institution, influencing even the processes of pedagogy in the Old World, our current historical moment is a witness to the growth of myriads of disciplines -- formerly merely sub-branch of theology -- into independence; and now they are proving to be more influential in the life of men and women. 

For our discussion, I would like to pick a lexical definition of relevance which refers to it as social applicability.  It is when something is able to satisfy the needs of its users that we say it is relevant.  Obviously, that religion is irrelevant means that religion is no longer sufficient to supply what is needed for human existence.

But, is it really so? 

For the sake of argument, I would like to posit a positive response to our subject.  And the following are my proofs.  I have seen in television, for example, the Bali bombers during their trial; they would bravely proclaim that "Allah is Great!"  This seeming mantra of religious fundamentalists is what the suicide bombers would also cry out -- at least, according to news accounts -- before they detonate the bombs strapped in their bodies.  Jihad could still mobilize thousands of well-intentioned men (and women) to fight for what Muslims perceive as against their religion.

Gory it definitely appears, but we get the base idea here: what has driven these men to their action is precisely their religious conviction.

I am aware that the proofs I cited above is easily dismissible by "Okay, but they are fundamentalists, and they do not embody the mainstream." 

It is for this reason then that I would like to appeal to what happened in the Philippines in 1986 when the Filipino President Ferdinand Marcos was driven out of office after more than two decades in power.  The guns and tanks of the military were stopped by the rosary-praying people who were also brandishing religious icons of different kinds and sizes.  In the same vain, I would like to draw everyone's attention to what happened in Myanmar just this year when the military government had to initiate a forceful crackdown against the Buddhist monks who took the cudgel for their people and protested against the abusive Burmese government.  In Seoul, Korea, too, a couple of weeks ago, monks made their presence felt against the government preference to another religion.

This time, it is the mainstream that is moved by their religious conviction.

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Comments (9)
#1 by gifted flip, Sep 17, 2008
when one seeks to satisfy his needs and desires through the so called religion and attains nothing, he would surely say, religion is irrelevant and would rather resort to other means to meet his end. But those who get satisfied and fulfilled would naturally say religion is still relevant and would always proclaim that God is Great!

The atheists and the theists co-exist on this planet basking in the same sun rays or the moonlight but with different mental speculations as to the source of these heavenly bodies.

Man\'s belief or disbelief in God\'s existence cannot change nor influence the fact that God is present eternally. What a man should pray and seek to understand is the relevance of God\'s eternal domain in relation to his temporary existence.

This is a share of thought from gifted flip with checkered brain.
#2 by puree, Sep 17, 2008
Yes religion is still relevant. Without religion or something you trust you have no path in life, you're just waiting to drawn in ignorance.
#3 by Moron Savant, Sep 17, 2008
Of course, I understand the positions of Gifted Flip and Puree. They are coming off from their theistic belief -- something which is, well, for some inherited. Especially if one is born in a "traditional, believing" family, one is influenced by the faith expressions that the other members of the family are living out. And one gets influenced either critically, or uncritically. But most of the time, we simply tend to accept and follow what comes to us.
What do I mean? That the sun rays and moonlight are made by god or gods is an uncritical position. Well, it was how the olden times -- the pre-scientific era -- explained things. And it was understandable since the pre-scientific era did not have the competence to explain using reason. Hence, they would "make up stories" -- read for example, the Genesis account of Creation -- to satisfy the inquisitiveness of their people.
Path in life is likewise not necessarily coming from God. For, obviously, where one leads into this life is conditioned by among others sociology.
#4 by gifted flip, Sep 17, 2008
For one I was not born in a "traditional, believing" family, and I consider it an advantage to my end.
"Path in life is likewise not necessarily coming from God" if I may borrow your line, Moron Savant, then what is the general premise "Everything emanates from God" all about? Where do other path in life come from if not from God?
#5 by Moron Savant, Sep 17, 2008
That everything emanates from God is theistic. This presupposes belief in God. But whether this is true and justified is another thing.
For who can really submit an irrefutable proof that God exists? And it is equally true that no one is able to be absolutely able to contend that God does not exist. There are proofs that either side quotes or appeals to to prove its lovingly-held belief. In the final analysis, however, it all boils down to this: that God exists or not is a matter of subjectivity.
Thus, we raise the point of divine relevance. What is subjective does not automatically mean or translate to the objective. Or what is held as true and justified knowledge by one is not expected to be held as such by the society at large.
Moron Savant is positing a very conventional point: what makes a religion -- understood in one respect as set of beliefs in God or gods (or theistic belief) is its being of utility to social life.
That path in life is NOT... from God means that God does not really prepare for every individual a life course. What he provides is a HORIZON -- something which we share as we collectively look at (or up to) it for guidance. This is expressed by moral theology's fundamental standpoint. Or, if one listens to a Catholic vocation director (for seminaries or houses of formation), it is the fundamental calling.
Concretely, it is about everyone's being to lead a holy (a rather Church-y terminology) life. In whatever life course we find ourselves in, this fundamental HORIZON is never lost.
Path to or in life is diverse in forms. Fundamental standpoint is single for all of humanity.
#6 by heaven, Sep 19, 2008
whatever you say, Religion is still relevant.
#7 by Moron Savant, Sep 20, 2008
Yes, Heaven, religion is still relevant... for now as it was in the past. In the future? We do not know.
#8 by mindless, Sep 25, 2008
Generally speaking religion is important regardless of the century it is in as the humans\' problems will ever so remain similar if not the same. The need find contentment is something of perpetuity and the hope of having inner-peace to cope with stress is something everyone goes through at least once in their lifetime. Religion can be said to be a kind of antidote for the common \'diseases\' that individuals are infected with. In addition to that, religion should also be seen as being a part of who we are for most of us and that should be relevant enough to say that religion is still significant..
#9 by Pooja, Oct 1, 2008
i think that religion is relevent, and i say that because was out religion what life like in this world and there would me no war with other country no cultral knowledge so yeh it important to have religon
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